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[felinoel]

Deleting exact copies of /TC3 pages, as their content probably doesn't apply to their TC4 version anymore

possibly*

Moving /TC3 articles that do not have a TC4 counterpart back to their original name, as they are not ambiguous

Why?

[dgelessus]

Why?

as they are not ambiguous

[RZR0]

It appears that we have so far always been keeping old mod versions mentioned somewhere - if for example a recipe has changed in between mod versions, we kept the old and added the new one. Even the two versions of the Gregtech-Fusionreactron 9001™ have been kept separate in a single article. There simply is no reason to prefer Thaumcraft's new major version over the older one.
Another example: if Thaumcraft 4 was called Arcanacraft instead for some reason, would we then "archive" Thaumcraft? Of course we wouldn't. After all we also don't "archive" RedPower 2 because we have Project:Red. TC3 and 4 are about as similar to each other as RP2 and P:R are.

^ I'm with that

[felinoel]

Why?

as they are not ambiguous

That just doesn't sound like a reason to link to old material?

[dgelessus]

That just doesn't sound like a reason to link to old material?

If an article/item has no new version, how can there be an "old" one? There's nothing to prefer over it. Besides, we're just talking about naming here, what we link to is an entirely different thing.

[felinoel]

If an article/item has no new version, how can there be an "old" one? There's nothing to prefer over it. Besides, we're just talking about naming here, what we link to is an entirely different thing.

What do you mean has no new version?

*scrolls up*

Ah I misread.

[dgelessus]

• Deleting exact copies of /TC3 pages, as their content probably doesn't apply to their TC4 version anymore
• Moving /TC3 articles that do not have a TC4 counterpart back to their original name, as they are not ambiguous
• Moving all other /TC3 articles to have (Thaumcraft 3) as suffix instead to match the general naming style

So... is everyone fine with this list then?

[ZL123]

So... is everyone fine with this list then?

Sure.

[RZR0]

I'd also add (Thaumcraft 4) to the name of articles with items in both versions.

[dgelessus]

I'd also add (Thaumcraft 4) to the name of articles with items in both versions.

fel still is against that, we haven't yet agreed on anything regarding that. That's why I wanted to start doing a few things that all of us agree with.

[felinoel]

fel still is against that, we haven't yet agreed on anything regarding that. That's why I wanted to start doing a few things that all of us agree with.

Against that because there is no point.

We title the TC3 articles as TC3 because those articles are outdated, the articles of the current mod shouldn't need to have clutter in their name just because of old articles...

[RZR0]

Well, I suppose I can somewhat agree with that, given that we do add a youmay

[felinoel]

Well, I suppose I can somewhat agree with that, given that we do add a youmay

Which I was also against for the same reason that it clutters up current articles with outdated material.

[RZR0]

Which I was also against for the same reason that it clutters up current articles with outdated material.

I wouldn't exactly call that clutter

[felinoel]

I wouldn't exactly call that clutter

I would, it serves basically no purpose to the people who are current.

I AM ok with leaving the clutter on those articles until no current FTB modpacks use TC3 though.

[timrem]

fel, why does it matter which packs are "current"? Plenty of people still play Ultimate, even though it has since been replaced by Unleashed and Unleashed has been replaced by Monster. Someone today even had a question about the Omega Bee, meaning they came here looking for information on the Retro pack for 1.2.5. As this wiki is a collection of information to help all FTB players, we should make it as simple as possible for our users to find the information they're looking for, not hide away older information just because you might only play on the latest packs.

[felinoel]

fel, why does it matter which packs are "current"? Plenty of people still play Ultimate, even though it has since been replaced by Unleashed and Unleashed has been replaced by Monster. Someone today even had a question about the Omega Bee, meaning they came here looking for information on the Retro pack for 1.2.5. As this wiki is a collection of information to help all FTB players, we should make it as simple as possible for our users to find the information they're looking for, not hide away older information just because you might only play on the latest packs.

People still play Minecraft Alpha but do we make articles for Black Steve? No.

(inb4: Certain future, undisclosed changes to the site would allow for such endeavors as Black Steve from Minecraft Alpha articles._

[RZR0]

I would, it serves basically no purpose to the people who are current.

I AM ok with leaving the clutter on those articles until no current FTB modpacks use TC3 though.

Well, we will have to reach a consensus, so we'll all have to compromise a bit.

[felinoel]

we will have to reach a consensus

We do? Why?-

[dgelessus]

We do? Why?-

Because we don't want to spend our entire life arguing about how we should handle Thaumcraft versions