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[RZR0]

I'd like to take this opportunity to discuss how we want to handle documenting the now two different versions of MFFS. One is maintained by Calclavia, the other by someone else. The different versions have popped up in FTB packs, but we currently only treat it as a single mod, even though they're slowly moving apart. Any suggestions?

[ZL123]

The two forum pages:

Calclavia's

Minalien's

 

Apparently Thunderdark (the original creator of MFFS) gave it to Calclavia on February 23rd, 2013.

But on this page here Thunderdark links to Minalien's forum page.

 

Calclavia's is for 1.6.2, Minalien's is 1.5.1/1.5.2.

Also, Minalien is part of Forgecraft.

[felinoel]

Give every similar and similarly named item their own redirect article and even their own separate nav templates, all separated by the author's name.

 

 

EDIT:

LOL!

Looks like you did the same thing I did after the server crashed, came to the forums.

[RZR0]

The server didn't crash, I took it down so I could swap out the ram :-)

[felinoel]

The server didn't crash, I took it down so I could swap out the ram :-)

Eff, I hope it didn't come back online soon after then... my quarry is automatic and I need to empty it often.

[ZL123]

Eff, I hope it didn't come back online soon after then... my quarry is automatic and I need to empty it often.

It came on about 5 minutes later I think.

[felinoel]

It came on about 5 minutes later I think.

I could have sworn I tried it ten minutes later... hmm.

[RZR0]

So to come back to this... In NEI, the old MFFS is now MFFS v2, so maybe we should just follow that naming scheme?

[dgelessus]

Okay, more writing clarifications on MFFS...

Technically, what I said on Apparatusdeus' user talk page was wrong - there are THREE MFFS versions: Thunderdark's original mod, Minalien and Searge's continuation (aka v2 or "MFFS Original"), and Calclavia's official remake/"evolution" (aka v3 or "MFFS Calclavia"). v1 and v2 are pretty much the same in terms of mechanics, which is intended. v3 however is a complete remake and rewrite with some differences in mechanics, UE and MJ power support in addition to EU, and some other stuff. That means that v3 may develop in a much different way than v2 and they definetely have to be treated separately on the wiki. I'm not quite sure if v1 is in any FTB pack (FTB Beta A?), but if so, we may have to differentiate as well...

[felinoel]

Okay, more writing clarifications on MFFS...

Technically, what I said on Apparatusdeus' user talk page was wrong - there are THREE MFFS versions: Thunderdark's original mod, Minalien and Searge's continuation (aka v2 or "MFFS Original"), and Calclavia's official remake/"evolution" (aka v3 or "MFFS Calclavia"). v1 and v2 are pretty much the same in terms of mechanics, which is intended. v3 however is a complete remake and rewrite with some differences in mechanics, UE and MJ power support in addition to EU, and some other stuff. That means that v3 may develop in a much different way than v2 and they definetely have to be treated separately on the wiki. I'm not quite sure if v1 is in any FTB pack (FTB Beta A?), but if so, we may have to differentiate as well...

Wait... are any of them just a remake of one that is pretty similar or are all three entirely dissimilar?

[dgelessus]

Wait... are any of them just a remake of one that is pretty similar or are all three entirely dissimilar?

v1 is the original version. v2 is similar to v1 on purpose. v3 is a full rewrite and remake, which currently still is somewhat similar, but that may change soon.

[felinoel]

v1 is the original version. v2 is similar to v1 on purpose. v3 is a full rewrite and remake, which currently still is somewhat similar, but that may change soon.

Then I think v1 and v2 should be merged while v3 should be a separate entity, at least that is my opinion.

Is v1/v2 still in use in any modpack?

[dgelessus]

v2 is in Unleashed and DW20-1.5, IIRC. Not sure about v1 though... probably in Ultimate, unless they already used v2 there.

 

Contrary to what it sounds, v2 is not actually outdated or something. It's just supposed to be like the old mod, that's why they gave it a lower version number. Not the greatest idea

[felinoel]

v2 is in Unleashed and DW20-1.5, IIRC. Not sure about v1 though... probably in Ultimate, unless they already used v2 there.
 
Contrary to what it sounds, v2 is not actually outdated or something. It's just supposed to be like the old mod, that's why they gave it a lower version number. Not the greatest idea

No when I said v1/v2 I meant them both as one entity.
So if then that both "v1/v2" and "v3" are in use then I still think that our articles should separate "v1/v2" and "v3" as two separate mods.

[dgelessus]

No when I said v1/v2 I meant them both as one entity.
So if then that both "v1/v2" and "v3" are in use then I still think that our articles should separate "v1/v2" and "v3" as two separate mods.

Yeah, this. If we treat v1 and v2 as the same, we can just call those "MFFS Original" and v3 "MFFS Calclavia". Those are the usual names, but I was avoiding them in my previous posts to clarify that there are three versions.

[felinoel]

Yeah, this. If we treat v1 and v2 as the same, we can just call those "MFFS Original" and v3 "MFFS Calclavia". Those are the usual names, but I was avoiding them in my previous posts to clarify that there are three versions.

idk about original... either we just name is MFFS or we name it with the new mod maker's name and then note the original author in the infobox imo

[dgelessus]

idk about original... either we just name is MFFS or we name it with the new mod maker's name and then note the original author in the infobox imo

Minalien and Searge (the devs) call it "Classic", whoops. Original is only v1 then, but I'd stick with Classic.

[felinoel]

Minalien and Searge (the devs) call it "Classic", whoops. Original is only v1 then, but I'd stick with Classic.

hmmm... classic sounds outdated imo... but if the devs use it...